• Francostars

    Prohibition is the water of Mafia fish and it is better to avoid it where it is possible, as the paying sex among adult and consentient people.

    • Snork Maiden

      But how can you know which people are consenting and which are not? The author of this article was prostituted in a state where prostitution was legal, yet she was still being trafficked, the people who bought access to her neither knew nor cared. Total prohibition won’t work, decriminalize the prostitute and criminalize the people who buy and sell them.

      • Francostars

        A lot of people, I see it on the Italian roads, where prostitutes have a smartphone, a car, they are absent during the periods of Christmas and Easter and the Italian women are amost never trafficket everywhere! By this one I can say that the most of Sex Workers are consensual workers. Moreover, banning only paying sex is enough to put the relative activity underground, as the total prohibition. It is logical to understand it and only people suffering of whorephobia cannot see it!

        • Zoë Lafantaisie

          You sound like a very nasty person – obviously you’re a man and obviously you have never had to be a prostitute

          • Francostars

            I know that the consentient prostitutes are getting rich, as mother and daughter who were awareness prostitutes and they were crashing their big cars continuously, till the Italian Financial Police have got them sanctioned to not pay taxes, as now they must do in Italy (Article 36 paragraf 34bis, Law 248/2006, as the Italian High Court has told many times)!
            Please, do not try to get the reality mystified!

          • Zoë Lafantaisie

            And that represents all the women and children being sex trafficked all around the globe? You are the one who is mystified. I don’t give a shit about Italian financial police. Any john who uses a woman for sex is a rapist! There’s nothing mystical about that. How many johns pay taxes? How many traffickers pay taxes? And you want to point to one woman and her daughter who are supposedly getting rich and say that it’s prostitutes that are the problem? Why not be part of the solution instead of putting out garbage that takes away from problem solving? Men who pay to have sex with women and children – that’s the problem – 100% of the time.

          • Francostars

            What is happening in Italy is more or less the same all over the World. I am speaking about prostitution among adult people.
            He cannot be a rapist, if there is a consensual action and this one is so much clear!
            It is impossible that mother and daughter I told before had problems, because, crashing continuously their cars, it is easy to understand they were not problems, but they staid very good! Only a stupid person, or suffering of whorphobia, can think in a different way. As you have seen, I have nothing to mystifie.

          • Zoë Lafantaisie

            I’ve never heard of whorphobia – I guess I’m stupid. Technically giving a person money to have sex with them when they would rather not have sex with you but just need or want the money – that’s using another person’s body for your own sexual selfishness – that’s violence and that’s rape to me. And I see you have nothing to say about the children – there are a lot of children used by adults as rape victims and a lot of adults were forced into that life by people like you when they were children. I realize you think that whoever does not agree with you is stupid – I’ll let that speak for itself.

          • Francostars

            As I told before, cannot be present a rape if there is a consensual act, even there is only exchange of money. In fact, prostitution is sex by low cost! This is not only my thinking but a logical way! Moreover, I am speaking only for adult people and not about children. I told this one before, but you don’t want to read this one!

          • Zoë Lafantaisie

            I understand english is not your native language but just because you say something that doesn’t make it true. You have to think about these things deeply, as if you’re a woman, rather than the man in charge. I understand it “seems” like consent but just know that when you pay a woman money to put up with having “sex” with you – she does not enjoy it, she doesn’t like you and in my books that’s rape – just because you throw some money at her, doesn’t make it consensual. Using women as your garbage can, that’s what it is to me – no man with any self-respect or respect for women would consider using a female human being to dump their sperm into. I know you’re not speaking about children. But the reality is there are children being raped for money by men every day sir! EVERY DAY! EVERY HOUR, EVERY MINUTE on EVERY CONTINENT. And they grow up in slavery to men like you and become adults with whom you believe are having consensual sex – even though most of them have to hand their earnings over to traffickers (like you?)

          • Francostars

            It is fake! They can get enjoy with money. So every marriage of convenience could be a rape. This one cannot be acceptable for the logical ways, especially if the sex seller is getting money. The real salvers are people exploiting forced prostitutes and not relative customers, thinking to stay with a consensual Sex Worker. It is so clear and easly to understand. Moreover, when people get the adult age, they are and they must, be free to have sexual free choice. This one is a rightness, as
            homosexuality and transexuality.

          • Zoë Lafantaisie

            Just because you said it’s right, does not make it right! Having consensual sex is not the same as paying for it. I don’t know what you are referring to (or even why) marriage of convenience. You probably think it’s also impossible to rape your own wife – because she is, after all, your property. You are no different than most men in the world. If you think for a second that any prostitute you have sex with likes you you are sorely mistaken – it’s acting for money – it’s allowing someone to deposit their garbage in you for money. Subhuman men pay for sex. Most prostitutes are also drug addicts and so they are submissive to 2 masters, the rapist and the drug pusher. All “sex workers” are exploited women. You can reason it out any way you want and I know there are women who say they enjoy sex “work” and that they are happy doing it but that is not the norm. Please do your spirit a service and realize that 99% of women who are in the sex “business” feel like they have no other choice and they hate you – believe me they hate you so much and think you are subhuman garbage – all the while making you think they like you – it’s a living. But the women and children I am talking about the most are the trafficked ones. Men will always find a way to steal a prostitutes money too – pimps/traffickers – as Rebecca says – they’re the same thing

          • Francostars

            It is not true. I have just told that if there is a consensual way, cannot be present a rape. There is no worst blind person who does not want to see (read). The most of prostitutes are not forced, I have told with real conditon ways, not even drugged. It is possible to see this one! I have forgot to say I met a lot of women, who have left from prostitution several times to return permanently to prostitution. As you see, it is easy to say you are speaking about mystifying conditions!

          • Zoë Lafantaisie

            Well, obviously you’re an expert – I agree there is none so blind as he who will not see. I hope if you eventually awaken that it’s not too rude an awakening. Most women in prostitution have already been raped and used and feel that they are not worth anything. Since you are not a woman and don’t really care to know the truth about women’s lives and feel like it’s okay to dump your sperm like garbage into women who feel they have no choice but to sell their sacred bodies to you, there’s no way to convince you otherwise. A prostitute is not going to tell a john the truth – ever – Never! So you enjoy your superior knowledge of the lives of women – and telling other women that they don’t know what they’re talking about because you know better. That’s what rapists/johns do. Is it a coincidence that we call you johns and we also call toilets johns?

          • Francostars

            Yes I am an expert, because I am into the Sex Workers World for about 25 years and I can say you are telling fake things, which are typical of people suffering of whorephobia. It is not true that the most of prostitute had a rape. Even if they want to have a consensual sex, even paying sex, it is a right way choice, which must be respected!
            A man who pay for sex, he does not want to pay so much with other kind of sex. This is the reason bywhich normal women suffer the existence of Sex Worker. They are not toilets people, but intelligent people and real people support Sex Workers’ and relative customers rightness.
            They have not told me the truth, but I have seen they were not in a poor condition, returning to prostitution and crashing their cars continuously.
            I have alredy told this one. Unfortunately, there is someone here who does not wanto to read!

          • Zoë Lafantaisie

            No, I just don’t believe you and I’m not saying that the women are the toilets, it’s the johns – they are the subhuman rapists. A man in the sex worker world? So you are a trafficker or just a rapist? Enjoy – don’t expect respect though. For the women – I respect them all but the johns, the traffickers, the rapists – no, no respect from me ever. I don’t know why you are continually going on about crashing cars – what the hell does that have to do with anything? Good day John, Mr. “I know everything,” Mr. typical rapist man! You are such a stereotype.

          • Francostars

            In fact I told that john cannot be toilet but intelligent people, who cannto be rapist if they buy sex from consensual prostitutes. I cannot see this one!
            I am a customer’s prostitute and I am defending my social caste. It easy to understand that who gets so much money, crashing cars and returning definitively to Sex Work cannot be a raped person. Only people suffering whorephobia cannot understand it and they are trying to say wrong motivation against it as you are doing, hoping someone could believe in them!

          • Zoë Lafantaisie

            Whorephobia – you seem to love that word that you made up! Johns are rapists and I do not fear or hate prostitutes. I hate johns who are rapists. I still don’t understand your constant references to crashing cars. I don’t give a shit whether you believe me or not – I don’t care at all what you think. I’m just standing up for women and children who are entrapped and enslaved in prostitution. You will never convince me that you have a heart. I don’t know what customer’s prostitute means – are you saying you are a prostitute? Are you a man? Cops rape prostitutes all the time. Johns rape prostitutes too and try not to pay them and kill them also. Prostitutes are a vulnerable population.

          • Francostars

            I am a customers’ prostitute (john) and I am against slavery and child prostitution. If a john pays for sex with a consensual and adult Sex Worker cannot be a rapist. It is logical to understand it. I see you cannot read this one! Because I am repeating it so many times!
            Whorephobia means phobia about prostitution among adult and consentient people.

          • Zoë Lafantaisie

            My phobia is for johns who don’t know the difference between a real relationship with an adult and paying to be able to rape women. You can repeat 5 million times that it is consensual and I know that is just what you tell yourself to make yourself feel better. Why can’t you have a real relationship with love and respect? What’s wrong with you? Prostitutes are vulnerable to ignorant raping johns like you – free? Do you really think that if you just gave these women money and give them the choice whether or not to be raped by you that they would choose to be manhandled by you? Wake up John! You’re living in a world of imagination and you don’t care about these women – you don’t even understand that you are raping them and do not have the emotional intelligence or the heart to have a real relationship apparently? Never heard of cops raping prostitutes? Never heard of johns raping a woman and then refusing to pay? Trust me, it happens every day.

          • Francostars

            It is fake. It is logica that the consensual giving sex cannot be the rape. Who pays for sex is not condemned for rape.
            Paying sex is sex by low cost and only real love cannot be bought. This one is the riality. Wake up you, that you are blinded by whorephobia and you are living only with illusions, carried out by moralist and pimps, who want prohibition of prostitution!

          • Zoë Lafantaisie

            I’m sorry, it’s is you who are a hater of so-called whores – I don’t even call these women that because I care about them. You are a rapist, plain and simple. You are unable to open your heart to a real relationship and are selfish enough to use women for your sexual gratification. You know deep down that they despise you – unless you’re that sick that you can’t see it when you’re alone. Prostitutes hate johns – trust me. I want prohibition of johns and I want prostitutes to be offered healthy lives where they choose who they want to have sex with and are cared for and treated like human beings instead of sperm receptacles. It is difficult for me to understand that you think you are better than a subhuman, that’s for sure. I don’t even know what you mean by sex by low cost. Does that mean you don’t have to love or care for the piece of meat you deposit your scummy sperm into? ‘Cause that’s what it sounds like to me. Anyway, you are the one who seems to be delusional. I have no interest in carrying on this sick “conversation” so I wish you well with your inability to love and using women as toilets. I hope you sleep well at night. If you answer this one I will just delete it. I hope someday you can learn to respect yourself enough to realize that women are human beings and not just your personal toilet.

          • Francostars

            I have told you that only real love cannot be bought. We cannot make a confusion between it and sex. Every consensual sex cannot be rape. The contray is mystification. I write this one not for you, but for others reading this discussion.
            I can say that a fake prostitute will not be a good prostitute and so she/he will loose her/his john. So it is so easy that real prostitutes loves their job and so their good customers!

          • Zuzanna Smith

            You’re the only one here calling these women whores, you disgusting POS.

          • Francostars

            I have told whorephobia and not whores

          • Zuzanna Smith

            Exchange of money is coercion, coercive rape is still rape, predator.

          • Francostars

            Totaly wrong if there is consensual and relative getting money. Stop with this stupid and illogical, not to say femminist, mystification!

          • will

            Payment=coercion.

          • Francostars

            It is fake, because Sex Worker and all other workers, wants to be paid. Stop with stupid mystification please.

        • Zuzanna Smith

          Oh they have cellphones, well never mind then. You’re the only one suffering from hatred of women, prick.

          • Francostars

            If I was a slaver, I would not give them on the road a smartphone, even a car, otherwise, they could escape easly!

    • Zuzanna Smith

      Did you read the article? She wasn’t consenting at all. She was forced, coerced and threatened at every turn. Men like you are predators.

      • Francostars

        Yes I read it, but I am speaking about consensual prostitution. I am against forced prostitution and I have told that the wrongest way to fight it is the prohibition of prostitution, even only for the offering or buying, because on this ways it would go underground (in a hidden places and hidden condition) and so criminals could lead it easier. So it is better to avoid it where it is possible, at least when it is carried out by aduld and consentient people, not for other conditions.

      • A man who pay for sex, he does not want to pay so much with other kind of love

  • Zoë Lafantaisie

    Thank you for a wonderful article Rebecca – thank God you’re not only okay but you’re thriving. I hope you and your daughter are still very close and healing. I’m buoyed by you saying that the changes are coming – I truly hope so. Bless you <3

  • therealcie

    A heartbreaking story, an inconvenient truth. Thank you for your powerful honesty, Rebecca. I wish you the best.

  • Kat

    I agree, Rebecca. There’s no glamour in prostitution. Just the same-old, same-old patriarchy — but often a lot more dangerous for the woman in many ways.

    And of course the customers don’t want to give up their privilege. That’s why they argue argue argue argue argue when any woman tells the truth.

    Thank you for your article. May your life be filled with peace and love.

    • Francostars

      As I told before, it is a mystifical article.

  • Dan the Man

    How men can treat women like this is disturbing and disgusting. Death penalty for traffickers works for me.

  • DiggityDog

    Speaking the truth and exposing the truth will get rid of this, horrendous crime against humanity. There are boys who are sold into this as well. I am so glad that you got out, the trauma will be with you for years. There is a very good Book and Work Book, called the Wounded Heart (Sexual Abuse). I bought it, had them on the shelf for about 5 years, tried reading the book and it was as I found out later, not suppose to be read cover to cover, but used with the Work Book. I found a group that was actually holding this course, over a 14 week period. We met, 12 of us, with 6 course leaders, and we broke into groups of 4… we were the only group that started and ended with the same number. It was a growing, learning experience. I encourage anyone who needs this to get the books, and seek out a group or make a group who is willing to do this. You must together be confiding and promise not to harm yourself while doing it, and promise to be confidential. It is an exercise in a lot of things, trust being one of them. We had 2 leaders with each group of 4, and that was a good thing, encase someone of them could not be there for what ever reason. I also found that really good Art Therapy is quite useful and helpful, for repressed Memory syndrome and PTSD. All the best to you sending love your way.

  • Marilyn

    Francostars, I’m sharing this for you. Hopefully you’ll learn something by reading this article.

    http://kuow.org/post/how-end-prostitution-educate-middle-school-boys

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