“Where Are The Men?” – Hiding in Plain Sight for 40 Years

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Where are the men? Since last fall, when Harvey Weinstein and his predator brothers were exposed for enacting poisonous masculinity, I’ve heard that question a lot. More and more women are speaking out—and, thankfully, being believed. Two simple words—“Me, too”—have sparked a movement that’s awoken a lot of people.

This is essential. But almost entirely absent from the global conversation is an examination of the system that allowed men like Weinstein to thrive—a system that is “male-dominated, male-identified, and male-centered,” as the late sociologist Allan Johnson put it.

The mainstream media’s coverage of individual stories of fallen men is a cop-out. If they want to get to the root of the problem they have to examine why men feel entitled to abuse women. And that leads us to—like the word or not—patriarchy. Women and men need to jointly put patriarchy on trial. If we don’t, #MeToo’s potential tipping point might tip backwards.

Where are the men? As the principal survivors of men’s sexual harassment and assaults,women are leading the way as a tsunami of change rolls over a culture that unfairly privileges men. But they aren’t alone. As entitled men in entertainment, politics, the media, and the arts are outed, suspended, or fired, we’re being asked, Where are the men? It’s a legitimate question. Women created and still lead the movement but it’s our cause too. Some men have been allies for a long time.

For two generations a growing number of men of all races and ethnicities in the US and around the world have been working to prevent domestic and sexual violence, and also to redefine and transform traditional ideas about manhood, fatherhood, and brotherhood.  Voice Male, the magazine I edit, has been chronicling those efforts for three decades.

Astonishingly, in reporting on #MeToo most of the media has neglected to cover—or even acknowledge—pro-feminist men’s sweeping critique of manhood and masculinity going back to the 1970s. When Gloria Steinem famously said, “Women want a men’s movement. We are literally dying for it.” some men were listening.

Some first pro-feminist organizations started long ago, including Men Allied Nationally for the Equal Rights Amendment (M.A.N. for ERA, 1976), EMERGE, the first batterer intervention program (1977), RAVEN (Rape and Violence End Now, 1978), and Oakland Men’s Project (1979).  But today, since #MeToo represents such a pivotal moment for men to challenge the notion we were socialized to believe—that male-dominated, male-identified, male-centered societies are normal—and because we have such an opportunity to educate ourselves about the history and ongoing activism of the anti-sexist men’s movement, the question is what can men do right now.

Borrowing from MVP Strategies’ “Ten Things Men Can Do to Prevent Gender Violence“, here is an abbreviated list of suggestions.

Approach sexual harassment and gender violence as a men’s issue. View men not only as perpetrators or possible offenders, but as empowered bystanders who can confront abusive peers.

Don’t remain silent. If someone is abusing or being disrespectful to his female partner or anyone—don’t look the other way. Talk to him; urge him to seek help.

Have the courage to look inward. Question your own attitudes. Don’t be defensive when you’ve done something that hurts someone. Understand how your attitudes and actions might inadvertently perpetuate sexism and violence. Work to change them.

Get help. If you are emotionally, psychologically, physically, or sexually abusive to women, or have been in the past, seek professional help. Now.

Join the cause. Be an ally to women who are working to end gender violence. Support the women whose courage and empowered voices have catalyzed the #MeToo movement.

Be an ally. Recognize and speak out against homophobia and gay-bashing— abuse with direct links to sexism (e.g. the gender identity and sexual orientation of men who challenge sexism is often questioned, a strategy intended to silence them. This is a key reason few men speak out).

Educate yourself. Attend programs, watch films, and read articles and books about multicultural masculinities, gender inequality, and the root causes of gender violence.

While women will continue to lead the #MeToo movement, men must play a critical role as partners and allies. If men are willing to investigate the destructive nature of patriarchy, and educate themselves about the benefits of gender equality, then history may well record this perilous time as patriarchy’s last stand and feminism’s next chapter. #MenWhatAreWeWaitingFor?

Rob Okun, editor of Voice Male magazine and the anthology, VOICE MALE – The Untold Story of the Profeminist Men’s Movement?, is also one of Women’s eNews ‘21 Leaders for the 21st Century‘ 2018. To attend,  RSVP here. 

  • StephenMcArthur

    I would like to add another important element to Rob Okun’s fine piece. Andrea Dworkin said: “Money speaks, but it speaks with a male voice.” Harvey Weinstein’s voice, along with so many other men, is a perfect example of it. While so much of this is about gender, gender norms established over thousands of years, male power and control embedded in our social, cultural, political, and religious structures, it is also about economics and economic power that have been male power centers forever. Part and parcel of any strategy to address the inequities and iniquities of male supremacy and its devastating results must be a fuller understanding among women and their male allies of the language of economic power and the system that has fought hard to maintain it. It should include understanding the lie that women should work for less, or better yet, for free, and the value of women’s work as described in Marilyn Waring’s seminal work “If Women Counted.” After many years of working with victims and survivors of domestic and sexual violence, I have come to believe our economic system of patriarchal deprivation must be at the heart of any analysis or action plan, along with current understandings and strategies to uproot sexism, misogyny, gender violence, physical and psychological abuses, rape, and domestic violence. Despite my obvious self-interested in the success of the forthcoming book Screwnomics (She Writes Press, April 3, 2018), I believe it can make a substantial contribution to fuller understandings of how and why women must be more and more involved in our economic life and why men must be allies in that effort.

  • Cedar Cat

    We have much to do. Thank you to our brothers who hold women sacred.

    • BlueLanternMonk

      Aren’t you just the cutest thing?! Can I haz U, plz?!
      “Research has found that though lesbians are much more attracted to the female form, most women who say they are straight are in fact aroused by videos of both naked men and naked women.”
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11977121/Women-are-either-bisexual-or-gay-but-never-straight.html

    • Rob_Drury

      Those of us men who truly hold women sacred do not abuse them; nor do we have tolerance for the modern feminist agenda.

      • BlueLanternMonk

        False. Only Caucasian men don’t receive Affirmative Action and only men are required, by law, to register for Selective Service; therefore, only Caucasian men have any merit in the workplace and only men should be able to vote. Tell me, do you oppose the aforementioned socialist privileges afforded to only women-as granted them, directly, by feminism or do you oppose those same? I understand that, via the aromatase cellular response-fat men have higher estrogen levels and lower testosterone levels-but, 70% of American men ages 20-34 aren’t married and women lose 90% of their ovarian eggs by the age of 30. Your goddesses-well, they have put themselves in a state of arrested distress. What do you say-will you save them? I intend to take away their unearned privileges of voting and Affirmative Action employment, ya know for the children and such.

        • Rob_Drury

          For the most part, I agree with your point as I understand it, but I don’t see where it’s relevant response to my statement.

      • Emilio Lamaar

        You hold women sacred? how pathetic!!

        American men are the lowest of the totem pole, they are treated as slaves, they lose their homes, pay alimony, they have punitive child support levels, based on “imputed” income, they are treated as second class parents regarding custody, thats their puritan tradition.

        Victorians saw women as ladies uncapable to do any wrong, and men as brutes, from there comes all the preferential treatment of women, men must sacrifice for women, the white knight and the lady, those things are deep on their collective subconscious.

        PD: Uk has also puritan roots, but shaped with european values, check child support guide lines, nothing if unemployed, 5 pounds a week if one makes less than 1000 dollars per month, from there on a pecentage and capped.

        PD: “In germany we don’t gender victims of physical violence. “Innocent women and children” is no longer a valid term anymore. ”

        I see some guys at my age with kids at the grocery store with wife and kids.They look like castrated sheep.He pushes the cart with child while the wife shops whatever she wants whenever he wants something he had to her permission.How pathetic all of this for few mins of sex??

        American men have NO desire for this huckstering, female-pandering institution called marriage, which is basically men giving up EVERYTHING in return of almost nothing.

        Marriage is a TERRIBLE deal for a man in EVERY sense of the word.

  • crydiego

    Men, think for a minute, –is this article asking you to suport women or is it asking you to support feminism. Women are our mothers, sisters, daughters, wives, and half the people in the world. Feminism is an ideology that after a million years of evolution blames anything bad on men, –the other half.

    • M RV

      That is plainly a lie. I am a feminist, I am a wife, I am a mother, I am
      a worker. Both my parents, both my grandparents worked to get me where I
      am, my husband supports me and I support him. Please stop spreading
      lies.

      • crydiego

        I’m confused by you reply to me because it is what I recommend! You as a granddaughter was aided by your grandparents, as a daughter by your parents, and as a wife by your husband. All that was made possible by the women’s movement in the 60s and 70s which simply asked for equal opportunity. This early feminism was supported by the vast majority of men and changes came quickly. Then feminism became the political ideology that it is today.

        • M RV

          I replied to what you said, since I do not know you. You said “Feminism is an ideology that after a million years of evolution blames anything bad on men” and I said that is a lie. I stand by what I said.

          • crydiego

            That is the whole point of my question to you: “You clearly want your husband, father, and grandfather to embrace and respect feminism but what does today’s feminism think about them?”
            Todays feminism implies that males and some warped definition of masculinity are to blame for all that is bad. It is an ideology, — and a hateful one.

          • M RV

            My husband, father and grandfather embrace what they want, they are free human beings.
            I am also a full human being and they acknowledge that. So do the feminisms that I know. I respect some of the men I know and some of the men I know respect me. I am a feminist, they respect that, I am a feminist, I respect them.
            You still say “Today’s feminism implies that males and some warped definition of masculinity are to blame for all that is bad”. I still say that continues to be a lie.

          • crydiego

            Today’s feminism has no empathy or appreciation for anyone or anything male.
            You say that is a lie but your only rebuttal is that you don’t feel that way.
            I’ll leave you with a quote by someone who also says she is a feminist: “Men have sacrificed and crippled themselves physically and emotionally to feed, house, and protect women and children. None of their pain or achievement is registered in feminist rhetoric, which portrays men as oppressive and callous exploiters.” Camille Paglia

          • M RV

            I must have missed your detailed explanation for your first accusation of feminism as “an ideology that after a million years of evolution blames anything bad on men”. I say what I see. Quotes out of context are bullshit. You have still not even tried to prove your original point accusing feminism to which I replied. And now you have thrown in another lie (must be the one for the road :-D): “Today’s feminism has no empathy or appreciation for anyone or anything male.”

          • crydiego

            I’m very happy with the comments I’ve made and I’m proud to let them stand here against you, with your fingers in your ears and saying, “It’s a lie! ” You are living a lie and those around you are required to mirror it to you, because feminism, –ask them!

          • M RV

            You do not make any sense. You made a statement without proof, which I questioned. You have not given any logical reason for your statement, just expanded it. Those general statements you made are a lie. I gave you an example of what I see around myself which logically disproves your statement. Still, no reasoning or basis for your accusations, but I am supposed to take them at face value (or mirror them) just because… you are “very happy” and “proud” of them. That does not make them true.

          • crydiego

            So here is your chance, you are a modern feminist, say something positive about masculinity through the centuries; I’ll wait.

          • M RV

            My husband and I have had a good laugh: you throw an accusation, I said it is not true, you do not even make an attempt to prove it and I am the one supposed to do the work? In any case, what aspect would you like me to focus on? (and then, of course, I will wait for you to prove your original point, let’s not forget how this conversation started).

          • crydiego

            It’s OK, the feminist mindset requires that you only see men’s oppressive side.
            My proof is you and your past comments. My proof is the reality of men and women’s genuine need for each others strengths and feminism’s fish and bicycle analogy. And, my proof is in your little antidote about laughing with your husband, — if it is true I have compassion for him, if it is not, I have compassion for you.

          • M RV

            Ah! The fact that you like generalization does not mean it is true, just means you like to generalize. You continue making no logical sense. State where I have talked about “men’s oppressive side”. You keep mixing stuff and not being precise, jumping from “feminism” to “feminist mindset”, no proof, no logic, no reasoning. I asked you what aspect, rather you start rambling on fish and bicycles and antidotes (no poison around), and “compassion”… Please get off your feminist pedestal, my husband is quite satisfied and comfortable in his masculinity. I do agree on human beings needing each other; however, that has no bearing on feminism and I see no proof of your initial 2 lies, rather just a reiteration. In spite of what somebody said, a lie repeated a thousand times does NOT become the truth, it is just a repeated lie.

          • crydiego

            You agree on people needing each other, you agree on, men and women, needing each other? As a feminist please tell me why would a woman need a man? Why a man and not just someone?

          • M RV

            Why not?

          • crydiego

            Feminisms theory of patriarchy, is the blame of maleness throughout time.
            Yes, men are someone, but why a man, -chance?

          • M RV

            You still have not given any logical reasoning for your first two lies, and now you are piling up another baseless accusation on them, i.e., “Feminisms theory of patriarchy, is the blame of maleness throughout time”. I am more interested in how you reason your starting point than in following a path with no firm ground whatsoever, so please just say which is it: baseless generalization lies or do you actually have a logic to what you are saying? If the latter, please share; if the former, just admit.

          • crydiego

            Your interest in my in my reasons is amusing. If one says that the truth is a lie long enough people will begin to believe it as the truth, — but I’m not interested in your reason.

          • M RV

            I have been asking for the logic behind what you are saying, since you might have a point. But it seems you do not, and you want me to take your word as truth just because.. Seems you are a bit too much your own feminist.

          • crydiego

            Yes, you may be right and as Karen Straughan says, “logic doesn’t always work with feminism.”

          • M RV

            :-D. Maybe she does apply some logic (I do not know the woman), but you certainly do not (on this occasion, no idea if you do other times).

          • crydiego

            Here is some logic. However it happened, men and women have come a long way together and my hope is for some reconciliation between the great feminine and masculine forces.
            Men have lost the battle of the sexes because feminism became powerful and political. Men and boys are losing on all fronts, is that what women want? and goodbye

          • M RV

            I agree with a bit in your first paragraph. I think human beings will continue their long way together and that cooperation (usually) brings improvement for more people than confrontation (except if and when necessary).
            The second paragraph tells me that we are coming from two different realities, that is why I was asking for your reasoning. Most of the people I know can not afford “a battle of the sexes”, we need boys, girls, men and women to work together to have our lives as best as we can.

          • crydiego

            I understand why you think what you think and I’m in awe of you debating ability.
            Modern feminism is a powerful force and is creating equally powerful changes.
            Are our realities so different?

          • M RV

            People create powerful changes. Not sure on feminism.
            Yes, because your reality seems to be full competition against each other; I have had collaboration most of the time. Best of luck.

          • crydiego

            Oh, you have collaboration and support most of the time? It seems you could only keep your bitter passive-aggressive side hidden up til now. You’re a defensive feminist who mostly experiences “collaboration and support! ”
            “I have had collaboration and support most of the time,” that’s a good one!

          • BlueLanternMonk

            I know that you noticed her working the 7″ x 4″ shaft, like a dirty girl; after I handed her her bonnet on every account and yet, you admire her – because she took you down through there. Now, do you see why men’s rights activism doesn’t work? Only unmarried or childless women are open to listening – but by then, they’re useless. Did you notice that she thought that men had an own group gender preference, like women (psychological projection) or that comparing anthropology and Einstein’s theory of relativity was untenable? I was smarter than her in 6th grade and yet, you admire her…..
            “Taylor et al. (2000) first proposed the idea of a unique female stress response which they termed “tend-and-befriend.” The tend-and-befriend response is characterized as an oxytocin mediated stress response cascade. There are numerous biochemical and evolutionary explanations for this unique female stress response that would have increased the survival of females and their offspring under conditions of stress and hence increased the chances of subsequent reproduction. Estrogen has been found to increase the effects of oxytocin already in excess in females as compared with males. Testosterone and vasopressin, the counterparts of estrogen and oxytocin, present during the male stress response, “fight-or-flight,” have been found to exhibit the opposite effects of oxytocin.”
            http://www.personalityresearch.org/papers/mccarthy.html

          • crydiego

            Well, there is that.

          • BlueLanternMonk

            It was funny watching you get trounced by a weak, dumb, fat, old, passively feminist woman. I don’t feel sorry for you, because you liked it; you were all: “finally, a glimmer of pointless empathy for teh menz! We’re finally getting somewhere, yay! Thank you so much for the nothing – I’ll treasure it forever and ever!” …..and that is why I follow your profile, broseph!
            “Man stands face to face with the irrational. He feels within him his longing for happiness and for reason. The absurd is born of this confrontation between the human need and the unreasonable silence of the world.”
            ~ Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays

          • crydiego

            You seem to be very well educated and good with words, I’m not. Conceding to others isn’t a weakness as much as an acceptance of my limits. Everyone views debates with a different point scale and debates are for the viewers.

          • BlueLanternMonk

            I dropped out of high school with straight A’s in the 2nd semester of 10th grade and ran away from home; I never went to university and I’m a virtually unemployable freak, of both nature and nurture. The truth is that you are most likely better with words, more well educated and a better person than I am, to say nothing of what’s her name. I figured that you were going easy on her, because she’s just a girl; it was still funny, though! You’re welcome to subscribe to my YouTube channel ForgottenFuRyan. I would be swayed by you kindness, if I weren’t so far gone. You’re an upright man and I hope that you’re married and have many sons and daughters! Remember to practice your abdominal or diaphragmatic breathing?
            “A man devoid of hope and conscious of being so has ceased to belong to the future.” ? Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays.

          • crydiego

            A lot of us are a little lost out here, each in our own way. I get a lot of wisdom from Jordan Peterson lately.
            Your youtube is impressive and I will keep stopping by but I never subscribe
            The breathing is important.

          • BlueLanternMonk

            Jordan B Peterson is far too soft for my liking, which I told him via comment and I trolled him so hard that he worked rebuttals to me into his course material; then, I pushed so hard that he blocked me. I knew that he would. Much like yourself and the other normiequeers – if you will – he has a public face to keep clean and a reputation to uphold. Your skills are wasted on diqus; let me know when you’re reaching 100x as many people on YouTube, eh crydiego?

          • BlueLanternMonk

            I looked for your YouTube channel: y don’t u hav 1?! You’re an Affirmative Action recipient like all women or colored people and only Caucasian men are not; however, you have a lot of accurate things to say. I’m of the mind, that it’s about time; for you to expand you audience, @crydiego!

          • Emilio Lamaar

            Now the tables are turning for the christiano/feminazi scum.

            The Arabic gang-rape ‘Taharrush’ phenomenon which sees women surrounded by groups of men in crowds and sexually assaulted… and has now spread to Europe

            Women exposing their body are harrasing men and shuold be punished.

            Oslo Professor of Anthropology Dr. Unni Wikan’s solution for the high incidence of Muslims raping Norwegian women is not for the rapists to be punished, but for Norwegian women to “take their share of responsibility” for the rapes because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative.

            Norwegian women, she has counseled, “must realize that we live in a Multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.”

            Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker’s response to the assaults under her watch [when 1,ooo German women were sexually molested and raped by Muslim migrants] has been to reprimand the victims, suggesting that they had asked for it.

            She has vowed to make sure that women will change their behavior, so that they don’t provoke Muslims to sexually assault them again.

            There will now be published “online guidelines” for women to read so they can prepare themselves….

            If a woman dresses in “sexy” clothes and goes out in public, why shouldn’t we consider this a form of sexual harassment in its own right?

            From an Islamic perspective, the harm caused to individuals by this is clear and inarguable. Think of men or adolescent males who for whatever reason cannot find a sexual partner. Or think of married men being endlessly tempted by strangers as soon as they step out of the house.

            Now you western female predators are going to pay for the crimes commited against our grandfathers, fathers, and brothers. Western women are a clear example of toxic femininity.

            Feminists (aka western women) will be on their own, no more preferential treatment for women, Christianity put woman on a pedestal ; the virtues held by the ideal female role model – the Virgin Mary.

            Other cultures see women in a different light , as treasonous creatures, manipulative, egoistical, and unworthy of respect if they do not earn it first.

            Are wester men going to help feminist women, their oppressors?

            Nobody Helped Woman Raped by 20 Muslim Migrants

            A rape case so brutal that even the Swedish main stream media is reporting about it.

            “Eeew, you have sperm on your face and on your clothes, don’t involve us,” they said to the woman. She had just endured a gang rape and abuse by up to twenty perpetrators in a stairwell in Fittja, but nobody in the southern Stockholm suburb wanted to help the victim, Metro reports.

            More details are now being published about the high profile case in Fittja, which took place in a stairwell in August 2016. The woman was gang-raped and also beaten up by up to twenty perpetrators. The woman was kicked, beaten, threatened with a knife and her head was knocked against the floor until she went unconscious.

            A neighbor who witnessed the brutal attack chose to ignore the it. He later stated to the police that he has “learned not to see or hear too much.” The man has lived for 15 years in Fittja, a Muslim-dominated area.

            Seeking help after the rape, the woman rang the doorbell of one apartment to ask for assistance to call the police. But the man who opened the door ignored her appeal and turned the bloody victim soaked in the rapists’ bodily fluids away.

            The woman then managed to get to the Fittja city center to seek help but there she was told she was “disgusting.” Nobody wanted to help her. “A guy told her she was disgusting and she had sperm in her hair,” reads the police report. She also tried to get help from a guard at the train station, but also he didn’t care about the woman’s situation.

            Instead, the woman was forced to take the subway to central Stockholm in order to seek help. Several men are now charged with the crime. According to the prosecution, they also filmed the rape and laughed during their sexual abuse.

            Feminist (aka western women) will be on their own, no more preferential treatment for women, Christianity put woman on a pedestal ; the virtues held by the ideal female role model – the Virgin Mary.

            Other cultures see women in a diferent light , as treasonous creatures, manipulative, egoistical, and unworthy of respect if they do not earn it first.

          • BlueLanternMonk

            Women are all immune to conscription and receive government mandated hiring, in all western countries. Our own Selective Service immune, Affirmative Action enabled, female voting majority is like that, here in The United States of America. Your women are just the same, birka or no, if not tightly controlled, they will revert to their savage female nature. Additionally, Catholic people worship women and are more heathen than Christian, thus the Protestant reformation. I understand that you are an imbred Muslim and that the sexually transmitted disease rates for brown people are sky high, however, that’s no reason for you to be upset. Do try to understand that whining won’t change anything, especially considering the black and brown people have the two lowest racial IQ averages on Earth.
            ‘A rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred: In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called “consanguinity”) and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent.[11]
            Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen.[12][13]
            The British geneticist, Professor Steve Jones, giving The John Maddox Lecture at the 2011 Hay Festival had stated in relation to Muslim inbreeding, “It is common in the Islamic world to marry your brother’s daughter, which is actually [genetically] closer than marrying your cousin.”[14]’
            https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam

    • BlueLanternMonk

      All women passively benefit from feminism via Selective Service and conscription immunity, which men don’t receive and by Affirmative Action, that only Caucasian men don’t receive. I admire you gumption, sir! Since you are what I’d call a Men’s Rights Advocate (men only have obligations) – I believe that you are ice skating uphill; but, it sure is fun to watch you go!
      “Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.”
      ~ Wesley Snipes, Blade 1998

      • crydiego

        Things are changing so my fight is not so hard. Good men and women are beginning to push back. Honor, respect, love, and family will always awaken in the end.

        • BlueLanternMonk

          54% of American women voted for Hillary Clinton, 0 of them register for Selective Service, 70% of American men ages 20-34 aren’t married and woman lose 90% of their ovarian eggs by the age of 30.
          ….. I know that you’re serious, but it’s just 2 funny!
          “DISOBEDIENCE, n. The silver lining to the cloud of servitude.”
          ~ Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary and Other Works

      • M RV

        Why is that Selective Service only for men, please? That is weird.

        • BlueLanternMonk

          Selective Service law as it is written now refers specifically to “male persons” in stating who must register and who would be drafted. For women to be required to register with the Selective Service, Congress would have to amend the law, which currently exempts women from registration.[65]
          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System

          • M RV

            Are men not majority in your Congress & Senate? They can not change it?

          • BlueLanternMonk

            Awww?! Gurlz can’t logic……so cute, hunny bunches! Answer: not if they want to be reelected by our Selective Service immune, Affirmative Action enabled, female voting majority and only women have an own group gender preference – whereas men have an out group gender preference – this is called gynocentrismand it lead us to this increasingly matarachal dumpster of a society. Thank you for the booby shaking, bb. I haven’t masturbated in over two months as part of a self control project. Tell your husband that you’re a good girl, for me?
            “A clear pattern shown in all four studies is that men do not like themselves automatically as much as women like themselves,” Rudman says. “This contradicts a lot of theoretical thinking about implicit attitudes regarding status differences.”
            http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec04/women.aspx

          • M RV

            1.- And that is somehow a woman’s problem, that they like themselves…
            2.- I had a good teacher, just now… You shook them well.

          • BlueLanternMonk

            I forgot to say that universal = country wide & permanent, unless forcibly repealed. Y didn’t you remind me?! Mad @ U!
            1. Yes, if women don’t control their own group gender preference and they don’t; whereas men who don’t control their out group gender preference are shamed by men and women. (Thirsty, beta male, orbiters, captian save-a-hoe etcetera. )
            2. You’re welcome and thank you, pumpkin tits. I have the blue balls 4 ever?! You’re so smart, for a dumb girl and although you’re married; I’d still let you please me! Call me maybe. Goodnight. Remember me in the moonlight?

          • M RV

            2.- Y, u please yourself enough. Bye, boy

          • BlueLanternMonk

            Goodbye, fat, old, passively feminist woman! Remember me in the moonlight?
            Published Works: Books by Walt Whitman – [begin page 369] – A CLEAR MIDNIGHT:
            “THIS is thy hour O Soul, thy free flight into the wordless,
            Away from books, away from art, the day erased, the lesson done,
            Thee fully forth emerging, silent, gazing, pondering the themes 
            thou lovest best,
            Night, sleep, death and the stars.”

          • BlueLanternMonk

            When a naughty boy picks your cherries and eats them all up; mentions you in his video and trolls it to you, like: what’s up?! ….: Smurfy’s Law by ForgottenFuRyan(5min.): https://youtu.be/qwhOyDFZcZ4

        • crydiego

          I would like to re-visit your comment because there is something very important in it.
          your comment is obviously headed for saying it is the patriarchy forcing men into service and women/feminism plays no part throughout history.
          What if you were wrong and men historically defended their civilization against those who would destroy it? So all I’m asking of you, Mz Feminist, is what if you are wrong and men and women loved and supported each other throughout history. What if they got here today, holding hands, making babies, supporting family and friends?
          What if feminism could be wrong, — just this once?

    • Emilio Lamaar

      Over the past 40+ years, tens upon tens of millions of men’s lives have been destroyed through divorce. Hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of those men, upon realizing that their future was destroyed, committed suicide. How did this happen? Chritiano/feminist divorce.

      As a bread winning man, your wife can cheat on you, cuckold you and then walk away with most of your assets and future income. While she’s off writing the next chapter of her life with the pool boy or bartender, you’ll be forced by law to finance her life goals through alimony and child support – else go to jail.

      Lets be honest men in the west are treated as animals, no reproduction rights, no custody rights, beast of burden of women, war slaves, men are disposable, there is more compasion for dogs than for men. There has been a deep decline in marriage rates over the past several decades, that perfectly aligns with the implementation of Chritiano/feminist divorce.

      In the US, thanks to their dead husbands, fathers and divorce raped X husbands, women now hold the majority of US wealth. Laws are already in place to specifically privilege women over men and to give women easy access to destroy men’s lives (no-fault divorce, Title IX, Yes Means Yes, Affirmative Action, the VAWA, etc). These laws and policies have nothing to do with equality and everything to do with ensuring women’s privilege over men and the redistribution of men’s wealth and power to women.

      The pope recently made the statement that men need to stop blaming feminism for their problems. THE POPE SAID THIS! Know why? For the same reason white knight politicians pander to women for their votes. The last thing you want to do as a man is get married. Unfortunately, the majority of women will sit back and watch men be destroyed. Why? Because the denigration of men and the redistribution of wealth from men to women suits them. The bonus is – so long as they don’t claim to be feminists – they really had nothing to do with the plight of men. It’s no different than the mass silence of people during the slave days or the mass silence while the Jews were being slaughtered.

      There was an unacknowledged, unspoken gain being had – and those having it weren’t going to rock the boat. Sure – there’s a minority of women out there working for true fairness and equality, but the vast majority of women will sit idly by as men are pushed further and further down the economic and social ladder.

      Now that men are opting out of marriage in record numbers and the birth rate is collapsing in Westernized nations, and men starting to convert to ISLAM, they are afraid. If you want to see the future of the US and all Westernized nations, look to Sweden.?

      For Victorian and Progressive reformers around the turn of the twentieth century, the only thing worse than an American male was an immigrant male.

      This institutional framework was especially troubling since it confirmed male Catholics, immigrants, and other undesirables in their ways, thus making them less likely to be converted into the ranks of the Progressives and other reformers.

      In 1920, a female Party official at the GOP convention that year felt the need to clarify that “I most emphatically do not believe in the aggressive, antagonistic, anti-man spirit in politics.”

      At the time, the Republican party was the home of the most aggressive reformers, and many party officials felt the need to separate themselves from these activists, just as some Democratic Party officials today must announce that they don’t support Antifa.

      The interviewer, a writer for Good Housekeeping, informs the reader that by 1920 “the anti-man period of the woman movement is past. The day of sex-antagonism is past.”

      In her updated 1998 preface to The Feminization of American Culture, Douglas suspects that “Amid faux-feminist standards of sexual impropriety, proliferating lawsuits, and a tyrannical pop psychology of victimology, we are now conducting a series of cultural campaigns remarkably like the drives for Purity and Prohibition in which the reform impulses of my [Victorian] subjects culminated in the late nineteenth century.”

  • BlueLanternMonk

    Men discover and invent everything, thus, we get to name thing’s, men are meritocraticlly superior to women in intelligence, strength, durability, virue and the vast majority of things, vut not all. We’re in a gynocentric or matriarchal society; built on the remnant of a once great patriarchal society, in accordance with the Social Anthropologist Robert Briffault’s Law. Furthermore, the aforementioned has long since been written in the ink of corrupt law.
    The case established a precedent which has subsequently been used in the Kansas courts.[8] It is one of the earlier cases now cited in U.S. child support guidelines which say that in every case that has addressed the issue the court has decided that an *underage boy is liable for the support of his child even when the conception was the result of statutory rape by the mother.[9]*
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer
    BRIFFAULT’S LAW:
    The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
    There are a few corollaries I would add:
    Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.
    Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1)
    A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male (which is not bloody likely).
    In 1930, H. L. Mencken wrote the following in his Treatise on the Gods:
    Primitive society, like many savage societies of our own time, was probably strictly matriarchal. The mother was the head of the family. …What masculine authority there was resided in the mother’s brother. He was the man of the family, and to him the children yielded respect and obedience. Their father, at best, was simply a pleasant friend who fed them and played with them; at worst, he was an indecent loafer who sponged on the mother. They belonged, not to his family, but to their mother’s. As they grew up they joined their uncle’s group of hunters, not their father’s. This matriarchal organisation of the primitive tribe, though it finds obvious evidential support in the habits of higher animals, has been questioned by many anthropologists, but of late one of them, Briffault, demonstrated its high probability in three immense volumes [The Mothers: A Study of the Origins of Sentiments and Institutions]. It is hard to escape the cogency of his arguments, for they are based upon an almost overwhelming accumulation of facts. They not only show that, in what we may plausibly assume about the institutions of early man and in what we know positively about the institutions of savages today, the concepts inseparable from a matriarchate colour every custom and every idea: they show also that those primeval concepts still condition our own ways of thinking and doing things, so that “the societal characters of the human mind” all seem to go back “to the functions of the female and not to those of the male.” Thus it appears that man, in his remote infancy, was by no means the lord of creation that he has since become.”[12]
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Briffault

    • M RV

      1.- LOL
      2.- that Kansas- etc. etc. case is totally bonkers.
      3.- basing an argument from 1930s “anthropology” is like using Shakespeare to explain how a washing machine works.

      • BlueLanternMonk

        1. Women are useless and yes, it’s funny! Shake them titties 4 me, k?
        2. That law is set a universal legal precedent and allows women to rape boys and charge them for child support, which is a jailable debt – if they or their parents miss payments and there are hundreds of laws like it, you laughing cow. Moooooooo!
        3. Basing the theory of time on someone from the 1800’s is like…….oh, wait……. Albert Einstein was correct.
        “Women are nearly five times more likely to show an automatic preference for their own gender than men are to show such favoritism for their own gender, according to a study in the October issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 87, No. 4).”
        http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec04/women.aspx

        • M RV

          1.- You first. 😛
          2- “Universal”? Creepy more like.
          3.- Physics and anthropology?
          4.- Good words: “good, happy and sunshine”? Should have checked “brave, serious and honest”, probably.

          • BlueLanternMonk

            1. My YouTube channel is ForgottenFuRyan and I’m nonluminousflame@gmail.com on hangouts application; it’s anon and free. I’m not a girl, little girl – I imagine that you smell nice!
            “A huge testosterone surge beginning in the eighth week will turn this unisex brain male by killing off some cells in the communication centers and growing more cells in the *sex and aggression centers.”*
            https://mobile.nytimes.com/2006/09/10/books/chapters/0910-1st-briz.html?referer=
            2. If it were girl’s being charged child support after being raped, you would have stronger words for it than creepy. Women are the ones in control; do you really think that the above law stands alone or is the a tidal wave of similar laws – like the violence against women, primary aggressor laws, marital rape laws, no protection against false accusations and on and on?
            3. Yes, they do have commonalities; relatively speaking. You’re why women should not be able to have Affirmative Action or unearned privileges of voting, you silly little sissy. Robert Briffault’s has so much peer reviewed research that it would make your tiny brain grow.
            Brave, serious and honest are not only strictly masculine traits; like having a justice based morality – rather than a care based morality – but they are not necessarily good in an unqualified sense, wheras good, happy and sunshine are; as well as being gender neutral. Let’s not go full matarachy; k, milk shakes?

  • Take The Red Pill

    “Where are the men?” To paraphrase the fictitious character John Galt: since we comprise an oppressive social structure you have referred to as the “patriarchy”, since we are worthless in your eyes, since we, by your own admission, are responsible for all that is bad and violent in the world, we have withdrawn. We are gone. We have given you what you wanted. Now you have what you want.
    For we ‘unwanted’ men, MGTOW is the future.

  • Emilio Lamaar

    The poison of Female supremacist, United Eunuchs of America, jews supporting the nazi party, the uncle tom.

    Another pice of nazi propaganda to criminalize the male population.

    Feminists manipulative control of the legal and family court system created a monster that subjugates men.

    Men are a bunch of lambs that obediently go to slaughter. Like the Jews went to the gas chamber. But it is worse then the Jews in WW II. There is no country persecuted men can flee to and get asylum. Oppressed exploited wage enslaved men are not recognized as persecuted refugees.

    Such men can either suffer the rest of their lives in poverty, in the Gulag jail of feminist dictatorship. Or they can act like men and fight back.

    Such kind of dictatorship is why the US constitution guarantees theright to bear arms. If you are violated by the government, you have to stand up against the government.

    Feminist injustice is so deeply entrenched, a violent revolution might be the only solution.

    Women did their revolution, with female trickery. Manipulative language, whining complaints, male benevolent chivalry, and pure male manipulability removed due process, justice, constitutional rights and freedom. Men were no match for concerted manipulations perpetrated by feminists.

    The Land of the Free has become a medieval terror regime.

    Men are repressed cradle to grave. In kindergarten and primary school, boys fall behind because female-only teaching staff gears school towards girl’s preferences and punishes boys for being boys. Female indoctrination continues through University, where a terror regime of sexual harassment laws stifles academic freedom and research. .

    But most men (or honest women) can understand the enormous hurt or rage that must be boiling in a man whose life got systematically destroyed, with absolutely no way out, by unjust cruel inhumane laws. The proper government, its courts and police are to blame for the unfair persecution.

    The problem is that there is no public consciousness about the problem of men’s rights. Radical feminists strongly influence governments world wide and basically own the United Nations. Feminists with their manipulative language and outright statistical lies have convinced governments, law makers, and the courts to make more and more exceptions to constitutionally guaranteed rights like due process. The book Heterophobia: Sexual Harassment and the Future of Feminism give quite a shocking impression.

    What are the human rights of a person threatened by the unconstitutional dictatorship of the majority? This is similar to the problem of a man condemned to death by stoning for apostasyfrom a legally constituted governmental court in Afghanistan. But there are governments opposing stoning for apostasy, but is not a single government in the world publicly opposing egregious human rights violations like debtor’s prison for fathers unable to pay child support, or supporting the freedom of an underage boy forced to pay child support to his female rapist.

    Interestingly, feminists have even devised psychological diagnoses (battered-women-syndrome) to justify premeditated murder of women who always had the option to simply walk away from the allegedly abusive relationship.

    Compare this to the men in our examples, that have absolutely no way out to flee decade-long financial exploitation and ruin. Some have life sentences with payment obligations until death!

  • Emilio Lamaar

    Racism focused on black males, but feminism targets all males.

    The core feminist agenda all along has been the destruction of marriage, the persecution of men, the killing of unborn children, gratuitous self-victimization and entitling a massive welfare state.

    What you read here is historical fact. The root ideologies and slogans of feminism as we know it today were drafted by members of the Women’s Ku Klux Klan (WKKK) beginning in the 1880s. This is documented by Kathleen L. Blee in her book “Women of the Klan.”

    The KKK collapsed about the same time radical feminism rose to prominence because feminists re-pointed their agenda at all men, not just black men. They demanded equality, destruction of “the Patriarchy,” evisceration of religion and special protections for “liberated” women. The only difference between racism and contemporary sexism is the target of social and economic repression. Racism focused on black males, but feminism targets all males.

    Racism did not truly end with the rise of feminism. Black males bear the brunt of feminist policy. When boys do not grow up expecting to be fathers and husbands, how can black Americans succeed? Black males, as a group, are the most likely to end up in prison or dead at an early age. The ejection of black men from the own communities is the primary reason they are so easy to recruit into radical masculist Muslim activism. Meanwhile, black females are provided massive social and educational supports along with preferential treatment getting “apron ready” jobs they are often unqualified for.

    Welfare is an entitlement for women and a sentence to indentured servitude for men funded by governmental socioeconomic destruction of marriage – especially in the lower classes. Today, one-third of children are raised by unmarried mothers supported with our tax dollars.

    Child support is then forcefully collected from low-income men (who must support themselves, too). From a policy perspective, it is madness to destroy marriage with welfare state “income guarantees” that are also recoupments, expecting the poor to lift the poor out of poverty. Most of these children lack necessary parental and economic resources that cannot be effectively replaced by government. We spend 30 times more per-capita on welfare than China does and wonder why so many children are failing in school.

    Congress has been unable to balance the budget – so it raises the debt ceiling another notch every few months. Indeed, as much as 70% of poverty would be erased if fathers and mothers simply married – a policy direction professional feminists discount as meaningless.